Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Massive hit to safety? I doubt that. We used to sit reserve with a two hour call out all month. You often had 6 straight days of that. We never considered it duty sitting around with the only obligation to answer the phone if it rang. It might be a safety hit but massive is over playing it a bit. Besides 14/22 is not the new rule.
I will concede it was a bit stressful at times watching a football game while oncall that was going down to the wire. You never knew when you might get called and miss a great finish!
22 hour duty days for the convienience of crew scheduling and cost savings through reductions in pilot staffing is a massive hit compared to the current hard 16 limit. To spin it any other way is rediculous. Now if that's not the new rule fine, but what is?
What is the net max duty day, including all reserve time, for the new rules, starting from the beginning of the first minute of being on call? If its greater than 16 for domestic ops, that constitutes a change from current rules and its a change for the worse big time and would represent a huge anti safety concession to the A4A to help "pay for" safety improvements elsewhere and that is unacceptable. Defending that is unbelievable and I hope that's not what you're trying to do.