Would that leverage of massive shortfalls somehow disapear if the union vote was tomorrow? Is there a better time to have the negotiation than when we are so far behind people will be leaving unless the company moves quickly?


Ill leave what I posted but let me take another stab at this.

You are right. The threat of a union is extremely useful. However scope is very rarely put back in the bottle. Once gone it is usually gone(the American negotiation all happened in a matter of months and they were able to negotiate it down because it was never fully implemented).

Scope is so very important to me personally and I think so undervalued by pilots at large. I for one will forgo this "raise" temporarily, to make sure we dont lose massively on scope/codeshare now. One thing has been perfectly clear from management so far during this "negotiation," they do expect us to pay for it somehow.

quote from the PVC email
"Communications from Flight Operations, the PAR Team, and from Senior Leadership all continue to narrowly set pilot expectations of this year’s “contract review” to a wage rate change that is paid for by work rule concessions and scope relief."

There is a quote mirroring this from investor day that im looking for currently.