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Old 04-10-2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
Please go take Delta. They are ready when you are..... As to the jumpseat being weight restricted you have about as much information regarding whether or not we are at the stops as you I would trying to get on that RJ with the mysterious ballast / CG issue. So if you guys want a jumpseat war I am ready to play. If I am short O2 for the observer or perhaps those belts on the jumpseat look frayed it may mean the cockpit seat is unusable.





That is a byproduct of the outsourced industry. If you have ever seen a flight from South Florida to one of the UA hubs you will see hundreds of UA pilots that were once base in MIA. They commute because UA closed their domicile their after 9/11. Should the MIA commuters deny UAX jumpseaters because UA closed their base?



Cry me a river. All of us were hurt by 65 that were not already B777 or B400 Captains. During the past 5 years our ALPA group gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay COBRA for our furloughed pilots (rightfully so). I have supported and desire to help those furloughed from my company, while they were being replaced by guys in RJ's.




Didn't Pinnacle have long term contract with DL?



Let's play this out a little farther. You trash your operation and the UAL replaces you with the next lowest bidder, putting downward pressure on the RJ rates. So now your company doesn't have the UA contract and it can't get a contract elsewhere to cover that seat you are sitting in when the music stops. Now you are on the street looking for a job. Guess who is hiring? That company that took your contract and you can start over at first year wages at the new company....Ever see the movie called Go Jet? Slashing RJ wages doesn't hurt our mainline bargaining power. We have our own rates for 90 seaters and a contract that wil hopefully be protected. I think our pilot group will man up and hold the line when it comes to letting the camel any farther into the tent.





I suspect a majority of those complaints are from passengers that missed their connections after being delayed from a UAX flight. UAX handles at least 50% of our passengers during their travels according to the latest propaganda. I have friends that are 1K's on UAL and they drive from SMF to SFO to avoid the CF that is UAX.




Retiring is the last step for me. I still have several years so it will be awhile. However, you still have to get the get an interview, pass the interview and then start your job.



I wouldn't black ball all of you. I am not willing to paint all of you with the same brush. However, people that decide to misplace their agression against the UA pilots like yourself don't belong in a UAL cockpit. You are effectively hurting the group you want to work with. In fact how would you feel if you got that UA job, on probation and you are trying to get to work only be denied a jumpseat for a war declared by your former employer? You miss your trip, which I don't recommend you doing on probation. How would that make you feel?

Do whatever you want Tony C, and I will am sure the UAL pilots will do whatever we want in retaliation if you decide you are punishing our pilots for your problems.
Let's flashback to the NYC based UAL pilot circa late 2004-early 2005.

A few NYC guys decided to go off the reservation and just start denying JetBlue pilots the JS. You know, because those oh so high and mighty professional legacy pilots were so smart they determined that it was JetBlue pilots fault that they UAL pilots were in the position they were in. Nevermind the FACT that JetBlue was employing a ton of furloughed legacy pilots. Nevermind the FACT that JetBlue had an EXTREMELY liberal JS policy that allowed A LOT of UAL commuters (to include FAs) from places like Florida to get to JFK.

These UAL guys thought they were "gonna teach JetBlue a lesson". Where the UAL JS chair got about one report a month system wide about a denial, he started getting 3-4 a month just from JetBlue ALONE. The UAL JS comittee had to send out an email telling theor own guys to knock it the hell off.

Could you imagine if JB responded in kind? Could you imagine how many UAL pilots and FA's WOULDN'T be getting to work? I'll bet these SAME UAL pilots commuted on JB and were as nice as could be when asking for a ride.

So yeah, doesn't matter if its the mainline or UAX side. Be a "professional" and deny the Jumpseat because "that'll teach em". Keep all the fighting amongst the pilots and derail attention from management's imcompetence. Works EVERY time. Just keeps alive the saying that pilots are their own worst enemies.

Have at it, see how good it works, knock yourself out fellas......

Like I said a few posts back. It's just a bunch of insecure needle-dikced unprofessional ignorant pilots talking tough on an internet message board.
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