Originally Posted by vspeed

Absent the merger, UAL would cease to exist in its old form. If you disagree, then you need to prove collusion on the part of both management sides to right size the airlines, which the arbitrator won't consider or concede to. The furloughs are coming back because of the merger, not because UAL emerged from its stubborn position of waiting for the industry to resume flying old widebodies domestically again, with Titlon hanging his thumb off the side of the road to anyone who would give him a ride to retirement.

Integrated, stapled...it'll all work out...in the end the main deal is everyone will get placed on the list and then we can get this behind us. For the most part, given attrition, retirements, growth, widebody fleet replacement...anyone on property will probably wiggle 2-3% either way from where they are relatively on their respective current list, save for maybe a few at the top and then we can move along. The key with putting these together is that everyone is treated fairly...you may not like everything, but the key again is fairness. Historical record and trend data usually sets the definition of fairness.