Originally Posted by
LAX Pilot
Exactly. The charade of pilots who are very junior getting Captain seats of out seniority because the work rules and flying is so horrible on reserve or being junior doesn't mean every CAL pilot who passed up a Captain bid should get a seniority advantage.
UAL brings far more Captain positions as well as far more widebody flying. This means that there will be more United pilots by far that occupy the top half of the seniority list and more CAL pilots in the bottom half.
Its not the fault of United pilots that pilots at CAL chose to pass up Captain, while at United, more pilots didn't pass up the position. Its also a result of only have a couple pilot bases, and larger bases are more likely to have position bidding variability. Smaller bases are more likely to have position bidding efficiency. UAL having multiple bases around the US means less commuters and more pilots willing to be on reserve. Plus the much better reserve rules make it easier to upgrade as soon as possible instead of what happened at CAL.
I think the arbitrator is going to see right through that one.
It would be ironic if the lousy work rules at CAL (which is what caused lineholding FOs to not bid Captain) ended up benefitting them.
It would also be ironic if CAL pilots having super bases in undesirable cities ended up benefitting them, as they lateral and bid out to decent places to live.
Stick to the merger policy....
Longevity (when was the pilot hired)
Status and Category (how many of each type of aircraft were brought)
Career Expectations (what equipment pilots would end up on)
The rest is folly and speculation.
You must be tired of being wrong by now.
How can you say captains are stealing seats out of seniority order? First, do u have a copy of the ISL already. That is the only way one would know the seats were taken out of order. Oh, that's right, still separate lists and operating separately in terms of the pilots. If you care to look at other airlines, captain usually falls to around 65%. It's just normal some people choosing the money and the others quality of life.
As to sticking to the merger policy, please do it for once. You are like so many taking text out of context. Those items must be considered with NO particular weight. Guess what, that means they can look at 10,000 different things if they want and use them. If you don't think they won't look at past precedents and try to minimize the gains and losses I can't help you, I will explain it to u in September ( maybe). These items must be considered in the big picture, that's it, stop reading too much into it!
As to wide bodies, yes UAL has more. But 67% voted to not consider the 763 a wide body. You can't blame jay and say he forced it on us in a SLI grab if u voted for it. Sorry, no cake and eat it to!