Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
You are hitting that KoolAid bottle hard. There is no "ending up at Delta" if you stay at Pinnacle. All you get is an interview, that is it. While getting a Delta interview would be nearly impossible in their last hiring cycle of 2010 (because they only hired a small handful with thousands of applications), Delta hiring is going to pick up a lot in 2014, 2015 and beyond. The problem with Pinnacle's deal is two fold. One, you only get an interview and there is no guarantee of a job or a Delta number. Two, there is a set quota per year of how many Pinnacle guys can get hired. This SSP is absolutely nothing to write home about. What am I going to post when peers in my seniority range interview at Delta? You'll have to ask me that in 2025 because that is realistically when they'll get their chance. But I can assure you with a 99.9% confidence that these FOs would be better off leaving, going to Spirit/Virgin/JetBlue, and then applying to Delta. They are far more likely to be called once they qualify their resumes beyond just the glut of RJ pilots applying to Delta.
On the contrary, LCC FOs have a better chance than RJ FOs. Don't take it from me, go to a job fair. Once Delta does start hiring, there is a limit on Pinnacle guys they can take. Other airlines have no limit. For example, there is no limit on how many Spirit pilots Delta can hire.
Right here:
And I have all the access I could want for the bridge agreement and TA details.
Ease the decision to leave Pinnacle? Are you serious? The only positive thing would have been a guaranteed Delta number for every Pinnacle pilot. That would have been something write home about. Knowing that today or tomorrow you can't go to Delta, but in 2020, you have a guaranteed class date and a number. That would be a good deal.
But all you got is a lousy "guaranteed interview" which every major airline uses at some point to get their regional counterpart to agree to some sort of concessions. It's a carrot at the end of a stick, dangling in front of you. I have no regrets leaving. Being permanent RJ FO at 37/hr even with only a guaranteed Delta interview in 2023? No way. What surprises me is your defending tone, as if you're proud to be at 37/hr with nothing to show for it but a potential guaranteed interview at Delta in 2023? Have some self respect.
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, at no point did I say I voted for the concessions. I stated why other people voted for it, it has already been beaten to death so I'll just leave it at that. If you can't comprehend English at a 3rd grade level I'm not going to explain it to you. Also you seem to be mixing up threads, we were talking about regional FOs getting hired at Delta, not FOs from a tier 2 major.
You should just start a thread and argue with yourself about how lousy of a place Pinnacle is, you seem to get off on that as you spend every waking hour telling people that work there how bad it is and how great VA is.
For the record, I don't agree with the concession, I think they put downward pressure on the industry. I think the bridge agreement is a joke. However your opinion has no creditability with me, your motivation to come on here and put down Pinnacle is clearly because you have some kind of ego problem working for a company that is only one tier above a Regional but far from a real airline.