Originally Posted by
shimmydamp
It's not wrong information if it is true. They are able to to apply and be selected up to 1/3 of the SSP, are they not? You are going off of a story you have heard from the Women in Aviation conference and have applied it to the entire 9e pilot group and SSP going forward. The union response you quote is going off of the written agreement, aka actual information. Seeing as when Delta hires, they will be filling classes with at least 12 9e pilots a month, that's more than would have happened otherwise, and creates movement.
You have a way of distorting and purporting "facts" just to paint 9e in a negative light. You've used 850 pilots as the end number multiple times, even though that would go against the staffing numbers used right now, you've stated that all 9e has is a guaranteed interview which is worthless while there are actually guaranteed seats, and you've routinely tried to make a mountain out of this molehill, claiming 9e FOs are being held back by the SSP.
Things in bankruptcy have been bad enough with 3 CEOs, payroll issues, and wage cuts, you think you could just use real facts to make your case.
Wouldn't you agree the WIA conference is proof? If indeed what the union said was true that any pilot can apply outside SSP and get an interviewthat way towards the quota, wouldn't that leave the Delta hiring team willing to meet 9E pilots go show up at a job fair? Instead what happened is they've been told you have a bridge agreement, no cuttin lines basically. If you want further proof, ask Compass guys about getting hired outside their flow, and now, interview program. You'll be surprised at the answer, but basically, it's get in line an wait your turn. You are correct that 9E got some guaranteed seats, though not a guaranteed job. However, evidence shows that no one will get hired outside the bridge agreement. Time will tell, but the recent conference update and past history does not bode well for acceptance outside the bridge agreement to cut the line.
As for the end state, 850 was a guess. Maybe 950. Or a 1000. Still not enough for over 50% of the group. The SSP will work for the top guys, those who choose to leave. Remember, with the end state of 850-1000 or so pilots, don't forget te lifer logjam. This means that those too old to go to Delta will rather retire at 9E. That's another CA seat that won't be vacated. Theoretically you could come to a stage where all 450-550 end state CAs decide to stay until retirement, further delaying upgrade. Not to mention, the Delta interview bad interview/reject. They too will be staying left seat. Between the bad interview guys and the guys who decide Delta not worth it, you will have a logjam. Without a chance to upgrade, FOs will not qualify for the SSP.