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Old 04-17-2013, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
I think they need to know the serious of the undertaking from day 1.

No need to try and scare sense into them from the start; but letting them know that flying is serious and options can be rare up in the air is just being prudent.
I tend to agree with this. For example, I reference Helios Airways Flt 522 (2005) to stress the importance of using checklists, no matter how well one thinks he/she knows it.


Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Not on the disco flight, but most certainly before solo. Probably wait until they have developed some basic comfort with stick and rudder flying.
Absolutely. Never on an intro/discovery flight. Gotta sink the hook in first!


Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
The three things which will kill a PPL the fastest, in inverse order of the likely-hood of recovery:

1) Mid-air
2) Slow base-to-final turn
3) VFR into IMC

I emphasize these throughout training, and needless to say there are plenty of NTSB reports to help make the point.

Yep. I reference JFK Jr. re: #3 and other known dangers such as spatial disorientation and visibility issues like haze and lost horizons; seems like everyone remembers it. I'm going to start using Yoda's suggestion re: the San Diego disaster for #1.

Does anyone have a reference for #2 that is particularly memorable?
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