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Old 04-17-2013 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
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How many pilots have killed people due to rotating too fast and crashing either because:

a) they forgot to put out the flaps
b) they lost an engine at a critical time and couldn't save it
c) they got distracted with another issue and lost control due to low speed
d) they hit windshear with insufficient speed

Compare that number, with how many pilots have killed people because they ran off the end of the runway and/or hit something off the departure end, solely because they were rotating too slowly...

Yet, we continue to preach bad piloting, imo. This has been my biggest pet peeve with how my company tells me to fly airplanes.
Agreed. We (the industry) puts WAY too much incorrect emphasis on flying a 2 engines working plane exactly like an engine out plane. If you hear "rotate" and haven't lost an engine yet, you've already significantly exceeded single engine TERPS criteria. By the time you get the nosewheel off the ground with two engines, you've blown it away. Yet we're taught to reflexively and agressively pitch for similar airspeeds at all costs.

Likewise, the industry is just now beginning to come around to fixing the insane stall [negative] training many carriers/fleets have been pushing for a long time. Approaching a stall? Hear/feel the shaker? Better pull back quickly because the checkride demands you not lose more than 100 ft of altitude!