The good news on this bid is only a reduction of 1 76 fo in HNL. Rumors previously had been a much higher reduction in 767 flying out of HNL. Of course there is the SEA loss, but if you look at the numbers, the loss is small. There are 4 76's scheduled to go away, but the total system loss is is 17 slots and that will change shortly in the future. I think there will be more retirements than predicted, the guys with defined benefits would be wise to leave soon if they have the time in. JJ retires at the end of April and will pull in 12.6k a month with no dues, state tax, social security or medicare to pay out. The other guys will see this and think about going out also.