Originally Posted by Sunvox

So, let's recap . . .

UAL pilots start out excited to be a part of a merger that gets rid of our horrible anti-labor management, and when discussions open on a JCBA as outlined by the new ALPA merger policy the first public salvo comes from CAL explaining how great their company is and how UAL has to come up to their level. First the CAL MEC forces pay banding in a blatant attempt to influence the ISL process then the CAL MEC forces payment for profit sharing which is later shown in legal decisions to be a direct violation of their CBA and the TPA, and the award to UAL pilots is pending. Next the CAL MEC delays the JCBA for 2 years and we lose tens of thousands of dollars each and when the UAL Chairman says enough and asks for a strike vote the obstructionist JP starts out with a resounding no until pressure from national forces his hand. Then the SLI discussion comes up and the CAL MEC pins it's hopes on the panel going outside ALPA policy and building a list based on the perceived career expectations and W2s whilst ignoring all previous precedent and the current rules.

After all that UAL guys get angry and ask for any sane CAL pilot to simply acknowledge that maybe just maybe it's a little "over the top", but the response of every CAL pilot on APC is we are hysterical and stuck on status and category.

Never ever ever anywhere in the early posts on this forum did I ever see a UAL pilot tell a CAL pilot to go back "to their coloring books." Never ever did I see a UAL pilot early on this forum try to tell a CAL pilot that their company was inferior. All anyone ever wanted at UAL was to follow the rules as laid out by ALPA policy. That policy favors UAL because we have more WBs and are older on average. Putting us down like somehow we as a pilot group are responsible for 9/11, SARs, and somehow you wouldn't have gone for Contract 2000 when we set the bar to the highest level ever seen for pilots is blatant back stabbing of your fellow pilot.

You know what . . . that sucks 'cuz you guys are the ones creating disharmony. I guarantee that every single UAL pilot went into this merger with the highest of hopes, and all anyone wanted was "a fair shake".

Tell me what it is you guys think is fair about the CAL proposal. Tell me what you think is fair about all the benefits accruing to the CAL side for the last 3 years while we sit with our hands out begging for a Captain bid. You have had the best of all worlds and you have the audacity to claim that we are a bunch of whining sissies.

I want more than anything to hold my head above the fray here on APC because to often I have allowed myself to be dragged down by emotion, but I am genuinely sick and tired of the CAL opinions expressed on this forum and I genuinely hope above all hope that the ISL comes down stovepiped status and category so I can come back on here and rub it in your faces, but I guess that will have to wait 'til September and there is still the chance that I could have my face rubbed in it, but boy I really doubt it . . . do you?