Originally Posted by
NightBusDriver
Okay, FDXLAG, un-confuse me...
with an excess bid the training is assigned as follows:
BTR-SNR: BID TO RELIEVE (SENIOR)
BTR-JNR: BID TO RELIEVE (JUNIOR)
EXC-JNR: EXCESSED (JUNIOR)
EXC-SNR: EXCESSED (SENIOR)
So from this sampling of Practice Bid #2:
# SEN CURR PREV TYPE
1. 1065 57CM 27CM EXC
2. 1109 57CM 30CM BTR
3. 1144 57CM 30CM BTR
4. 2084 57CM 27CM EXC
5. 2302 57CM 11CM BTR
6. 2339 57CM 77FM BTR
7. 2377 57CM 27CM EXC
8. 2464 57CM 27CM EXC
Wouldn't the proper training order (by contract language and seniority) fall out like this...
#2-3-5-6-8-7-4-1
And if they simply "put the Bus/MD/Triple guys at the end" then they would be training out-of-order (e.g. 1-4-7-8-2-3-5-6, whatever) and passover pay would be paid to pilots 2&3 based on 4's activation, and to 5&6 based on 7. I know, small-scale sample but I hope it illustrates my point/question.
Of course I don't remember how the DC-10 End of Days played out way back when...but I'm sure someone can comment on how plenty of excessed guys and gals sat around (NOQ, but paid BLG) waiting for a class date. Right? Anyone? Bueller, Bueller....
You kind of lost me why would pilots 2 and 3 get passover, they are leaving 30CM. If their training gets delayed they keep flying the bus and keep getting WB pay for their current equipment. Of your 8 pilots only the 77FM (pilot 6) could be eligible for passover.
As FJ said we have language that specifies training order, but we also have language that specifies the punishment for training out of order. And passover pay only works if going from NB to WB or FO to Capt. They only guys who would really have a right to b1tch are WB guys forced to NB seats to early and in my example that doesn't happen except for pilot 6 who could get Passover or could be trained in order.