Originally Posted by
socalflyboy
Motch...do you think 30 airframes which are not really growth but more replacement, will trigger furloughs? Serious question btw.
The reason I brought up the "F" word is that I'm thinking of what this management team may/is capable of come 2016-17.
Come 1 Jan 2016, UAL can have 153 of these "76" seaters and 102 "70" seaters.
1-C-1-a-(2)-(c) Up to a total of 255 76-Seat Aircraft plus 70-Seat Aircraft (“76/70- Seat Aircraft”), of which up to 130 may be 76-Seat Aircraft, and then, on or after January 1, 2016, up to 153 76-Seat Aircraft.
Those aircraft will be allowed to fly up to 120% of United Mainline Single Aisle Block hours.
To me, it's a perfect set-up in if the company parks the A319's, threatens Furloughs if we don't accept some sort of concessions when the next contract talks begin.
The other gorilla in the room is the "NSNB' aircraft.
1-L-25 “New Small Narrowbody Aircraft” means a CS100, E190 or E195 aircraft, provided that such aircraft is neither in the Company Fleet as of the date of signing of this Agreement nor acquired through merger or acquisition of another air carrier.
Unfortunately we did not secure a payscale for the CS100.
For 2016, the Payscales are=
EMB195 12yr Capt - $163.88
EMB190 12yr Capt - $139.42
CRJ900 12yr Capt - $139.42
CS300 12yr Capt - $208.63
I'm gonna expect the CS100 will pay somewhere less than $139.42.
So now the door may be open to get a CS300/100 combo (or a E190/195 combo), which will allow the company to go above the 153 limit on 76 seaters at UAX.
25 CS's (15-100's, 10-300's) would allow up to 173 "76" seaters flying up to 104% of our Single Aisle Block hours.
So basically, the company will be able to reduce higher paying aircraft for smaller paying aircraft at mainline and at the same time, increase the number of larger RJ's at the UAX side.
Oh, and here's the last kicker-
1-C-1-h Effect of Furlough
If a Pilot on the Seniority List with an employment date prior to the date of signing of this Agreement is placed on furlough, the Company shall convert all 76-Seat Aircraft for operation as 70-Seat Aircraft. The number of such aircraft shall continue to be limited as though they were being operated as 76-Seat Aircraft. The Company may again commence operating such Aircraft as 76-Seat Aircraft effective on the date that the most junior Pilot protected by the first sentence of this Section 1-C-1-h is recalled from furlough.
My opinion is that anyone hired this year and next is safe, but can expect a serious bump backwards come 2016-17.
Anyone hired 2015-2016 will probably be on the bubble.
Me, I will be on 9th yr pay and expect to become stagnant or take a pay cut.
These are just my opinions, but the reality is- we left a huge hole in this TA by not having a CS100 payscale. And, our "NSNB" scales are lacking too. Also, the ratio of "NSNB" aircraft to extra "76" seaters is lacking.
BUT-
We got a killer A380 Payscale~
We got that going for us!
Motch