Originally Posted by
tsquare
I can't argue your logic vis-a-vis having a lot of big airplanes when times are good etc etc... THAT is management's job to sort out. And so far, our team has done a great job. As far as decoupling pay, I am sure nothing I can say is gonna change your mind, and frankly I am growing weary of trying. (although I am not gonna stop whenever the opportunity to say I told you so presents itself) I have had a fairly fortunate career. I am sitting in my retirement seat and I will be 53 this summer. I couldn't care less about the 747/777/330... well maybe I will go fly the 2x4 someday.. but that's it. So my point is that I have no dog in the fight other than leaving a better career than I found. We can still make sure that the Ninjas like Carl continue to benefit all alone, and that those like him that happened to be in the right place at the right time are handsomely rewarded... or.. we can pursue alternate methodologies. Either way, doesn't affect me one way or the other. I just think it is a shame that misplaced greed (and that is what it boils down to) takes precedence over what would be better for the group going forward.
T;
There's no question that with the loss of the retirement, the way we look at pay, seniority and other things have to change. However, in this regard, I haven't gotten my head around the entire issue. When I do, and the lightbulb goes on, I'll share it with religious fervor. For the time being, I'm jst operating within the system to maximize the variables of w-2 and QOL.
I don't think the answer is as simplistic as a flattened payscale - It causes unforeseen other issues. It would be an interesting exercise, if everything paid the same, to find out what each individual pilot would choose to bid and spreadsheet it out.
In my own heart, I don't know what I would choose. I think my problem (and maybe others) would be decoupling w-2 from what sort of flying I actually enjoyed the most. I think I peaked (enjoyment-wise) flying the -er to europe, but I also enjoyed the extreme simplicity of the 737-200 operation (minus the twisted sisters).
There's no question when I left the 73 and went to the 764, I was super excited, but it had to do with $$$ for less work.
End of the day, I don't disagree with you, I just can't agree with you. I simply don't know the answer to how our payscale should go.