Originally Posted by
PerpetualFlyer
Way to not reply to Saabs who totally called you out with facts and hard evidence. You do know what that is, don't you? I understand it's been a while since you've actually seen any facts, versus the made up reality that exists in your mind, but maybe you should read what he wrote.
I can only write so much on an iPhone. At the time I was in a van on the way to a hotel. Had some food, and now on a computer. Not everyone can respond to everybody at once. Here's my reply.
So shyguy just for you I pulled up the last 3 way seniority list from the new Pinnacolaba mix. It currently shows 2168 active pilots at the company. Of those 2168 pilots 312 are premerger colgan pilots. That is half the original pilot group ( so half, let me repeat that half of the colgan pilots already quit!) and that ratio of pilots is 14.3% of the new pilot group. Of the 312 active pilots there are 168 colgan pilots that are captains currently showing on the seniority list. I know 3 people that have quit since that seniority list was published on april 1st. So 163 out of 2168 is 7.7% of the pilot group are colgan captains. Also, since you keep saying that all the 900 captains slots are colgan I added up all the colgan pilots and you know how many there are ? 12 total on the entire list 12?! That is .05% of the pilot group that is currently active. The most junior colgan 900 ca was hired in June of 04. So the Colgan guys did not make it out that great as you keep posting.
Yes, this is the case *now.* May 2013. My reference was in a different timeframe, end of 2011 to be exact. "Plus, the chatter back then from the 9L guys was "Oh, we're content on our planes, we don't want bigger jets." Yet, once the first vacancy came out, the majority of the new ATL -900 Captains were Colgan. Go figure." This was around when the first mother of all vacancies was out, and it included the closing of the Mesaba Saab bases and the closing of the BOS US Airways express flying. There was a smaller (one or two) of these and then a big vacancy realignment. This was still when the Qs were around and so were the Colgan Saabs. The talk was the Q guys would stick with those and had no interest for the RJ9s. Yet, once that huge realignment award came out, the majority of the ATL -900 awards (as in more than 50%) were Colgan guys. And of course, Q400 captains were mostly Colgan because of their 193 quota. A few XJ/9E pilots did get the Q CA slot once the 193 quota was filled, but very very few. Now today, in May 2013, of course it's not the same. The Saabs are gone, the Qs too, and the ATL-900. So your analysis is not surprising, because it is a harsh reality of today, not end of 2011. There are less jobs available. Make no mistake, the only reason 9E hasn't furloughed involuntarily so far is because attrition has been very high with guys bailing off a sinking ship.