Originally Posted by
Rogue24
Have you spent any time talking to your Reps?
Translation: I need to change the subject here, so I'll utilize the tried and true method of inferring that you have no right to an opinion unless you're doing ALPA work.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
Do you realize that to get the gains (restoration) that everyone wants, we need to be working for a company that is willing to not just agree to those raises, but support them.
This is a complete misunderstanding of negotiations. If the other party is already
willing to do something, there's no need for negotiations! Negotiations is the art of compromise between two sides who DISAGREE! Unreal man. You want to work for a company that is a willing partner and supporter of the gains we all want? That's literally delusional.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
Look at the slides that were presented at that investor breakfast. A takeaway is a lot of extra cash in the business plan for "opportunities." Whatever those may be, will further solidify the new way of running an airline. Old ways need to be done away with. A company that is constantly profitable means gains every time we come to the table. Most importantly is sustain profitability means no give backs and no concessions.
That's a clear synopsis of management's position. But we're labor! What about that don't you get? If you're fine working hard for your company in the hopes that some of the amazing success might trickle down to you, then that's your right. But I don't want that. I pay union dues specifically to keep myself away from trickle down corporate economics.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
It may not be where we the pilots want the money, but it does further our case to management when our time to talk comes. This announcement makes my expectations move higher not lower.
Our time to talk came and went, and our "union" didn't make that case. Our "union" took the very first offer from management even before Section 6 negotiations began. Our "union" did all that while our company was hugely profitable. Working for a profitable and successful company is great, but you need a union who actually cares about your increased expectations. This one doesn't.
Carl