Originally Posted by
Rogue24
BS. Most voted yes, because though it was not the deal they wanted, it was cash in their pocket.
That might be why YOU voted yes, but none of the other yes voters Ive spoken to. Every one felt like they'd been put into a no-win situation by our own MEC. They felt like they had no other choice...which was the exact intent of that MEC administration.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
FWIW, I voted No.
BS. I guarantee you voted yes.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
I know you hopping mad at DALPA.
I know that's the talking points spit out by DALPA. Characterize all that disagree with the party line as angry, emotional, ungrateful and in need of doing ALPA work so that they can be properly re-educated. It's boring dude. Same old playbook.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
You think talking to your Reps is a waste of time? Well e-mail em, have everyone email em. Give them hard evidence that the silent and no so silent majority want a better deal the next time one comes around. Change their philosophy, I try to every chance I get. Why? Because if they hear from many of us on many of the issues, they are going to see another side of it. If they get nothing, they assume that everything is A OK.
Another example of the same old tired BS. Reps do NOT matter to this union. They come and go. Our entire MEC and local union structure was ignored by Moak who signed on to change our contract with another MEC. Our reps are mostly good guys who work hard. But our union's structure makes them all but meaningless. It's not their fault. So save the whole "bring them hard evidence", and "if they hear from enough of you", etc. You sound completely out of touch with what's actually happening today.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
Tilting at windmills on here feels good, but the Reps probably do not spend a ton of time reading this. On top of that, its 40 of the same posters. To make a real change in the way business is done, you need to be active and present. Stating they will not listen to you and its not worth your time is a cop out. You and others preach that DALPA and ALPA need to put effort in. Well, given the fact that may of the donut crowd do not contribute or provide feedback anymore, there is no counter balance to things. For there to be the change you desire, it can not be one or two pilots running and in most cases losing every year.
See above.
Originally Posted by
Rogue24
This malcontent quadrant of the DAL pilots need to reengage and force the issues in each and every election, and on each and every issue. Until that happens, the mountain is not going to move too far.
You'll probably get into a little trouble from your handlers at DALPA. You're not supposed to overtly call us names...you little NO voter you!
Carl