I'll be the first to say, the UAL proposal was what "I" consider a good start!! And believe me people CARE what I think!! (sarcasm) I really don't care much for the formula's and merger policy rules, since they all give me a Headache anyway!! I just want a list at the end of the day that works for ALL of us so we don't want to burn the place down when it's over!! As I told the the UAL guy I was flying with the yesterday, there is nothing I'm going to say that makes his situation better! (Being furloughed is PAINFUL!! I was furloughed) The only thing I said to him was much of our Career is LUCK no matter what anyone says!! If this merger happened in 94' when I was furloughed and UAL was hiring, I would have been worried. The only positive, he's coming back when there is lots of hiring going on. When I came back in 94, I was at the bottom of the list and it wasn't moving nearly as fast as it is now!! ( we talked about many other issues and had what I thought was a good trip!) I didn't try to "polish" a turd and tell him, " Hey look how pretty this is!!" though!! And Hoss, if I were you I really wouldn't be that worried, if you were never furloughed I think you will be just fine!! (Again, I'm sure that comforts you since everyone is hanging on my every thought!!) That being said, when I say the list is OK, I just thought it treated me fairly. But, the list isn't about just me! It's about EVERYONE!! (It was in the ballpark, I was just put in left field!! Now I would like to move up to the pitchers mound! ) The real issue is the Furloughed guys. I still have a problem with an unemployed person going in front of an employed person. I would have said the same thing in 94', just not in public!! It a dumb luck thing!!