Originally Posted by
Bassman1985
Sounds like some guys need to read the Ops Bulletins. If the TAMDAR times are incorrect (i.e. we were ready to roll from the gate w/parking brake released, but were unable to pushback/turn out due to ramp traffic) we state the actual time we were ready to roll out when we call passing through 3000' on departure. Same for de-icing ops up north if they are done at the gate. OOOI times should be measured the same as they were before the TAMDAR was in use. If the TAMDAR was wrong on your out time, say so.
Mountains out of molehills, guys. But hey, this is APC...I shouldn't be surprised.
Some airlines pay crews based on when the door closes. This is probably the best way since the captain assumes full responsibility at this point. Up until that point, the gate agent typically owns the airplane.