Originally Posted by Snarge

I voted for the agreement. Here is why:

CAL ALPA really brought not too much to the table, so instead of using real leverage, Pierce manufactured leverage with brinkmanship. CAL JCBA negotiations were all about the ISL, because, ..... CAL really brought not too much to the table. The CAL pilots traded unity for a few pieces of silver.... They were happy with the status quo of no JCBA for the upgrades, regardless of where it was going to put them in a couple of years. For the betterment of all of us, we needed to get the CBA done and the ISL done, so the company can quit playing us against each other.... That had value to me.

There was no better deal. No one, could present a compelling argument to vote No with the prospects of a better deal. Even to this date, on this forum, no one can provide this argument. There is no precedence. The APA BK agreement doesn't come close.

The political capital collected by the UAL Leg Affairs on CapHill was used up. The political players and the NMB believed this was the best deal. Compared to the rest of the economy, if we voted this down, we'd be seen as whiny prima donnas. In this anti labor, pro capital economy, this is a good deal.

The NO voters are identity driven. They want to be known as better than Delta and equal in status as Smisek.... this JCBA didn't match that. But that wasn't the lens used by the yes voters. The yes voters pragmatically looked at the data... used a business deal logic and voted.

It's called negotiations for a reason. That is why we didn't get everything what we wanted. And why the company didn't get all they wanted....

Despite the NO ego's, and for their betterment, the JCBA passes. What has happened is done. We own it, let's move on... get the ISL done, put on the cheesy uniform and proceed.