Originally Posted by Ninety Two, Set
Isn't this an ATC only phrase? My pet peeve is pilots who call up clearance delivery and say "clearance on request to XYZ." Perhaps another "useless phrase?"
You're exactly right, it is an ATC only phrase. It is used mainly from a VFR tower when the controllers have to call up the TRACON to get your clearance for you. Happened to me a lot when flying out of Morristown, NJ. They would have to call up New York TRACON on a land line to get my clearance, as well as a release. What the pilot should say is "xxx clearance, N12345 request IFR clearance to xxx with information xxx."