Lots of guys think this time around management will come to the table sooner to get rid of the transition language and line bidding. The two together is estimated to account for some 15-20% pilot staffing.

I personally think they might come out with a low ball offer but only if that will save them money. I.e. give us an instant 10% raise and go pref bid. That would save them some money but I doubt anyone here will go for that. I won't. 15% cut in staffing means stagnation for at least 1-2 years or longer while we are still getting airplanes. Eff that!

They would have to give us a larger raise like 25-30% for this to be even considered by the pilot group. I would still vote no, but I think most guys would go for that. But the company will never give 25%. That does not save them money. So they will just drag their feet like last time. So my guess is, we won't see a contract for a while.