Originally Posted by Sailor

Agreed with all, but why are you mad?, we haven't even starting to get a team ready to negotiate the next commandments. I think we should start gathering some data, opinion and show a strong commitment to a not better but leading contract.

Look, I really doubt anyone prior to June 2010 really wants pbs. I think we all hate the idea, at any cost. Loosing premium pay it's an example. Even a good number of us YES voters were upset about it. But you pick up and keep going.

We all want more efficiency, (higher line cdt) vs this 72-76 avrg cr9p we are seeing, and 5 days off. PBS isn't one of the things nor should even be part of our negotiations. After 5.5 years, I'm yet to hear a Spirit pilot wanting PBS.
And if a new hire, after contract 2010 even entertains the idea, it needs to be questioned why, then lead pipe (jk), NK style.

But getting mad about it isn't gonna help us at all. We all pull together, learn from the last negotiations and make it even better.

Getting a team together, asking our reps "how are we getting rdy for this next contract" and getting involve it's the most important thing. Two reasons, we want them (neg committee) to know that they have our support and with our participation there is little room for unwanted decisions or surprises.
All together. It's easy to seat on the sidelines, and wait for a great contract or bad and then point fingers (4 point back).

But I agree with you 100%, and Ram hat idea (I want a pineapple with Xmas lights on mine).

Cheers