Originally Posted by
Nevets
For both Trip7 and pilot666, the relevant question is, are you talking about a modest pay raise and retaining QOL as it pertains to the current ASA contract? Because that would be a significant pay cut and decrease in QOL as it pertains to the LXJT side.
A modest raise to the LXJT contract would the the equivalent to demanding huge pay raises for the ASA contract.
I completely disagree that a modest raise to L-XJT contract is a "huge" raise to ASA guys. Your contract might be a little bit better than ASA's, but both contracts overall are in the same ballpark. ALPA's Economics and Finance Committee or however it's called has the data to prove it.
Anyways it's an irrelevant debate, because the union has released a statement saying they are committed to expediting a JCBA in order to give the company the flexibility and economics to add new growth aircraft like the EMB-175 while maintaining the QOL for all pilots. I stand by the union and that statement.
If you guys want to banter for the next 5 pages about how much better L-XJT's contract is carry on, I'll wait for a TA
Really? Higher 50 seat pay rates, higher 401k matching, higher vacation accrual, higher sick accrual, better health benefits and premium caps, better scheduling rules especially reserve, and a B fund which is non existent. Pretty much every section tied to financials are significantly (that's the word I used, not huge) better. Yes, the E&FA has confirmed that. Don't confuse the price tag on the total contract with the effective trap compensation rate.
So of course you are willing to take a modest raise and keep your current QOL from your contract but that would be a "significant" concession on both for us on the XJT contract.
My fear is that my union will agree to a TA that has only a modest pay raise and maintains your QOL in order to chase the 175 carrot. Personally, this is just me talking, I rather whither in the vine.
Keep your plan B and C ready!