Originally Posted by Alex
Well, according to the AIM that's incorrect phraseology. Read section 5-2-3 and you'll see the correct phraseology.
Alex, I concede to you. I assume the AIM says what you claim. Fact is I have never opened the AIM. All I know is that when I start my preflight I let clearance delivery know "clearnace on request, ready to copy." Sometimes immediately, but usually later I get my IFR. It has the desired effect. All I am saying is that the mil teaches that technique and many mil pilots use it. Why do you guys care so much?