So, what you are saying is that in the final analysis, unions are powerless unless they walk off the job. Powerless to stop the managements' decisions to bk the airlines, powerless to stop furloughs, powerless to prevent paycuts (even though voted on) powerless to stop the termination of retired pilots' pensions (with the help of local Alpas). Powerless to do anything other than walk, then take the chance that the job won't be there at the end. Seems like what you are "educating" everyone about here, Major Green face, is that individual unions are weak in the face of a hardball management.

Age 60, for instance. The only way you will ever stop that train is through an SOS (suspension of service) by everyone. But since you are probably ALPA and have begun the alienation of the B6 pilots against ALPA if ever an SOS did come down the line will there be a national consensus by the unions at B6, VA, SB, not to mention the SWA union, UPS, AirTran and of course the big dog American. All non ALPA carriers probably not adhering to ALPA's call for an SOS over some issue.

So continue to act like a child with your toy, alienate all the pilots at the new upstarts, don't acknowledge them on the hotel van-you are doing a hellva job bringing the industry back to the standards it once was. IE, if you think the unions have the power to do the above. As I have said, these pilots groups will unionize when THEY feel the need. And wouldn't it be nice to have these groups speaking as one at a true national union, instead of ten voices on capital hill.

To continue this, how do you feel about the "new" membership of former CAL scabs back in the national union? But I forget, you don't answer questions, just shoot from the hip.