Ummm, I'm pretty sure that's not what they said either. Try to key in on the the phrase "with a surplus of pilots at a system level" (after winning productivity gains in C2012 and beginning to park the 757's that they had planned to park even before C2012 was voted on). And btw this good cop bad cop thing they are using is getting old...."We wanted to do "x" but dad said we couldn't....we are on your side but mean dad isn't being nice." Also the notion they only talk once or twice a year and it's just to see what to do with pilots/planes for AE's and to help in posting crew resource memos. Silly but I guess it does take them out of the hot seat. After all they are on our side Now about that hiring that is likely to begin Fall 2012 if this TA passes.....