Originally Posted by
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Just remember that we fly airplanes, we don’t buy them.
And yes I will beat that drum til C2015. Because while I will fly our airplanes for whatever price 50.1% of the pilot group agrees to, I do not want to do another “if you… then we will give you these airplanes to fly”.
That stuff is none of our business. And I think maybe if we get out of that business they won’t take outsourcing to the max allowed out of the fear that we won’t bail them out when outsourcing bites the bottomline as much it bites our bottoms.
Just look at what we found out after we bought ourselves 717s...
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In all my reading I haven't run across a "we'd been fine either way if the pilots had said no. We could've lived just fine without the 717s and large regional jets and instead just kept our large fleet of 50-seaters." Or "Our only regret is we didn't get to purchase Dash 8-400s."
All I see is we wanted out of 50 seat RJs really bad and we really wanted the 717s and more large RJs. We got rid of airplanes we didnt want and got ones we did want and the pilots were the key.
Damm, why can't we get some like minded individuals such as you running our union.....pull the current guys out of bed with management and start making up some ground for the profession instead of constantly falling backwards. We get our rears handed to us big time on these contracts and the loopholes and one sided deals...unacceptable.
Btw, I see what Ed did here:
EB: No, because actually, we’ll be mindful of our frequency by market and that’s a key driver, and the 717 deal, particularly, gives us much better gauge and the second thing is, I don’t think customers want to fly 800, 900 miles on a 50-seater. Part of what we’re doing here is putting a better product in the market, better fuel efficiency, fewer airplanes in the air and our customers tell us they much prefer flying on mainline airplanes rather than 34-, 44-, and 50-seat airplanes.
EB conveniently made it sound like the 70 seat and above jets were with mainline by implying the other than 34,44 and 50 seaters where the "mainline" airplanes our customers tell us they much prefer. A sin of omission if you will. The semantic games our management play gets really old.