Originally Posted by
cencal83406
Let me start with: if companies get shut down from fatal accidents, why has Pinnacle been so lucky? Remember, Express II in Hibbing. That was us. You might have to go back as far as Hyde to find out about that CA though.
I already posted about the accident Captain. Express I had the accident, and it did survive (that's why I didn't say all reigonals, but most).
Next: if 0 flaps is not "CA only", which I will concede up to the point of, it's not specifically prohibited, why were we then not trained on it? If we aren't trained, what CA in their right mind allows a guy to do it? Can you imagine the fallout if a CA allows an FO prior to 2012 to 0 flap, FO goes off side, and media reveals no training whatsoever for 0 flap landings?
Trained? It's a requirement for a type ride and that's why Captains do it. If it wasn't required, it wouldn't be done. So just because you haven't trained in the sim for a flaps 0, or a flaps 8, or a flaps 30 landing, means you can't do one? The media is going to fry you no matter what. They will say that the pilot didn't land the plane, a second backup pilot tried to land.
Finally: I acknowledge that you, ShyGuy, have not done a 0 flap landing. However, there is some tool bag, who used to work for Pinnacle, got a job at Virgin, and posted as "MA" on airlink, who wrote on a post there that he had 0 flap landed. Sorry I confused you with him. If you ever see him around the halls at Virgin America, ask why the heck he's so butthurt about a 3rd party arbitrated list at a company he doesn't work for any longer.
No hard feelings bro - sorry for thinking you were that loser!
That guy never posted anything about a flaps zero landing, nor did he do a flaps 0 landing ever.