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Old 06-09-2013 | 09:32 AM
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Carl Spackler
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
I guess when I've read your debates I've wondered where you get fear from. I looked at the numbers differently and based on my experience (ran a flying hour program in the AF....yes probably apples to oranges to an extent) came up with a different answer than you did. Was it fear, nope. Am I insulted that guys "think" it was fear.........you bet.

My last bar fight was at Nellis during a Red Flag (ok, no punches were throw but it's still a good story). One guy thought I was too afraid to knock him off the ball in a crud match....he was wrong, and I was wrong to think he wouldn't be offended by my agressive move. Thank gawd we both had "understanding" squadron commanders
Fair point. If your decision was based on a dispassionate analysis of the numbers, then fear doesn't apply to your decision. But there were many, many DALPA admin types and insiders that flat out stated: "I promise you this is their last offer"..."any next offer will likely be far worse"..."do you really want to let this offer expire and spin the wheel of fortune against the NMB and the RLA?..."we can't show you the results of your survey because"... Now what would you call this Ferd? We have a large group of pilots with wives and children who've stagnated for decades. Do you think all of them are immune from a fear based campaign by our own union?

The campaign of fear was a shameful act by our union. It's the choice of last resort by a leadership that knows they don't have the facts on their side. I wish more pilots could have been as dispassionate as you were, but many pilots simply couldn't. That's not as much their fault as it is the fault of the team who waged the fear campaign.

Carl