Originally Posted by
johnso29
Actually.....I wouldn't. I'd get my car fixed and move on with my life. I've better things to do then fester and harp over what could've been. The problem with your analogy is that the system isn't broken. Everything we have is ours because as a group we approved it. Over 60% of our pilot group voted YES for this latest TA. And now it's our contract. Done. Over. We can't change it.
So while I enjoy and encourage sharing thoughts, I don't enjoy reading the same gripes, moans, and complaints about what is done. Choosing to not fly ALV+15 is now gone. The RJ scope has been changed. Over. We can either unite and decide how we want to fix it, or continue to mindlessly whine over something that 62% of our pilot group thought wasn't a bad deal.
You can't move on until you agree there's a problem. Another analogy, "hey babe, yeah, I was sleeping around, but I've moved on..." Ain't going to cut it. Some don't see a problem with more large RJs or ALV+15. So next contract what's to stop more large RJs and elimination of ALV+15 for all because in international categories blah blah blah?
Something else sometimes happens in an argument. You learn youre wrong. It's not a bad thing. I'd love to be like "HEY DALPA IS SCREWING US ON [name it]!" And ACL says "Actually, this is why, this is why it's good for you, its a good thing." To which the response should be "oh, I stand corrected." I see 80 admit more than anyone when he's wrong. And trust me, I'd rather be wrong about ALPA then right. I just worry I'm not.
Also, here's the thing about a healthy discourse. I personally don't care if a pilot is DAL M88, 737, 767, senior, junior, ALPA lover, ALPA hater, hater in general, etc. I enjoy talking to anyone in person. I'd enjoy talking to Slow and Alfa although I may ask more questions than bow up and argue. I'm not that way, I like to get people to talk, I learn. But here on this forum is where we debate ideas and hope gunship sneaks a good pic of kate upton. It's almost a good thing names and rank and stuff is hidden. I think it's unique and good vs the dalpa forums if done correctly.
I'm a good FO. I can get along with anyone but I'm not sure everyone would get a long with me. Take Ferd for instance, look at some of the posts he's directed my way:
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
You're a sissy cat FTB
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
I hate guys like FTB who post oversized pictures
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
FTB, I'd like to slap you up the side of your head.
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
FTB you're like a bird on my patio, prancing around trying to look pretty. Why are you? A cockatoo?
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
Shock me FTB, say something intelligent.
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
Dimes are silver, pennies are brass, why does your face, look like your ass FTB?
Originally Posted by
Ferd149
FTB, I see you were so impressed with your first chin that you added two more?
It hurts on the inside because some of its true. And to come from an F-15 Tomcat pilot that flew at Ft Monroe, that hurts even more.
Originally Posted by
johnso29
If people on this board want to chew someone's ear off about scope, head over to the Alaska TA thread. Their NC decided to protect $$$ & their pilots in a merger scenario instead of establishing scope protection. Nothing stops Skypest, RAH, etc from flying 100 seat RJs as Alaska. NOTHING. And that's what THEIR NC chose.
I don't know, but what is LM doing over at national?