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Old 06-09-2013 | 07:56 PM
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LeineLodge
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Originally Posted by Scoop
LeineLodge,

We are within compliance simply because the 3 year window has not yet ended. While this is true, its like saying a football team that is down by 4 touchdowns with 1 minute left has not lost. True - but they will have "lost" in 1 more minute just as we will be out of compliance when the window is over.

I might also add, that when we are found to be out of compliance the period of being out of compliance will go back three years so we may in fact find out that while we are in compliance today, when we look back we may find out we were not in compliance today.

Look at it this way, if the company builds a time machine and sends Arnold Schwazenegger back in time to renegotiate with DALPA and............... never mind.


On the Pacific stuff I agree that there is potential and it may be a good move. I have been talking to my reps about it and am willing to let it play out for a couple of months.

My only heartburn is that if the company makes no effort whatsoever to comply in the Atlantic what makes us think that will comply with the next deal in the Pacific?

It appears the company negotiates a deal, does whatever it wants anyway, DALPA does not challenge the company but works out a deal. Lather, rinse, repeat. If DALPA keeps backing down and never challenges the company sooner or later, oif not already, DALPA will be taken for granted.

My 2 cents

Scoop
Re: AF/KLM

We will have to wait and see. From what I've been able to ascertain, the main reason the company is below the target is because the Euros have been slow/unwilling to pull down capacity - a large reason they haven't been posting the profits we have.

If AF pulls down like they should, we may be back in compliance without having to grow the Atlantic massively. Do I like it? Not really. But it is a way the company can MAINTAIN compliance.

Please don't get me wrong. I want Delta pilots to maintain/grow our block hours more than the next guy. It just ticks me off when the DPA spouts nonsense in an effort to sway the uninformed.

Things do not always go our way. Liking the way things are, and dealing with the way things are, are apparently two different things...