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Old 06-11-2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan

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The table you are referencing is not intended to be the exclusive sole-source answer as to who can/cannot be admitted to the cockpit.

No, it's not the sole source. It's just the "bible" the inspector with the badge will be using when I get ramp checked in Albuquerque. It's how he will interpret the controlling regulation.

(And I don't carry copies of FCIFs when I fly, so I won't even try to tell him 8900.1 is wrong.)



Originally Posted by kronan

It is quite specific about the table not considering 121.583, yet the very last section of .583 allows you, The Capt, the authority to grant cockpit access to any one you want.

I am torn now between two answers, a humorous one, and a serious one. Since I can't decide which to use, I'll give you both, and you can pick. The humorous one is first.

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1) HUMOROUS REPLY

Originally Posted by kronan

... 583 allows you, The Capt, the authority to grant cockpit access to any one you want.

That's great news! I'll be bringing my wife along on the next trip!






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1) SERIOUS REPLY


Originally Posted by kronan

... 583 allows you, The Capt, the authority to grant cockpit access to any one you want.

NO! Absolutely not!

2 reasons:


First, the Captain only has the authority to DENY flight deck access. In order for a person to be granted access to the flight deck, he must have permission from 3 (three) parties:
  • The FAA
  • The Certificate holder
  • The Pilot in Command
All three are required -- any one can deny. Without the permission of the FAA, it doesn't matter how the pilot in command feels or what the certificate holder wants -- access denied.

Second, .583 applies to supernumerary seats, those seats outside of the flight deck. By definition, no flight deck access is involved. The seats covered by this section are located aft of the Intruder Resistant Cockpit Door -- if such a door exists on the airplane. If no such door exists on the airplane, no such seats exist on the airplane, and no such passengers may ride.








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