Shiz was explaining how classes would be staffed. For those of us who hadn't looked at it, it kind of helps to understand it. Especially for the off the street hopefully all hired at Delta guys who frequent this cesspool of knowledge.

One thing that would be interesting to look at is expected retirements. We have 857 between now and the end of 2017, or really a net of 758 considering 99 are out on NBC. And unlike baseball, most people don't get bigger, stronger and healthier with age... Cubs and Cardinals fans cough cough.

Anyways, we need to hire 17.9 or 15.8 pilots per month from 2014-2017 to keep up with retirements. Now we know guys leave prior to that and it's unpredictable but it's just a ballpark gauge. The real gauge is how many pilots fly the line every month, right now is around the 10,500 range and has been for a while. If nobody was unable to bid for FUR, MIL, SICK, etc we'd have 10,500 pilots. If that makes a move towards 9,000 more than a move towards 11,000 and there's no external reason for that then we need to have a conversation.