Originally Posted by
LAX Pilot
But my point was that for Ben, all those pilots are junior to him, and even with them counted in, he only changes 3%. That's also without removing the pilots that have retired, and adding the new hires, since its the 2010 list.
Let's look at this from a simplified model of our merger. Airline C has 50 pilots and pilot X is seniority number 35 (70%). C merges with Airline U which has 60 active pilots and 10 on furlough. A seniority integration based on available seats would integrate X with pilots at his seniority on U's list at 42 producing a seniority of 77/110 (70%) for X. Airline U includes all of their pilots in the integration calculation meaning X is integrated at 49 producing a relative seniority of 84/120 (70%). Problem is that there are still only 110 seats so X is in reality 84/110 (76%). The +/- % in the UAL list proposal counts bodies, not staffing, and the more junior the pilot, the more dramatic the result of changing from a staffing to bodies model. I don't know what Ben's actual numbers are, but the number on the UAL list is a fraction of the actual seniority lost for many of the CAL pilots.