Originally Posted by
jsled
When? In 2008 before they were bumped? What does that matter? UAL 1997 hires held Captain in 2000 and again in 2007. Irrelevant. That's why it's called a snapshot date. Get ready.
Sled
Junior DOH holding a Captain bid at CAL on 9/17/2010.
IAH 787 CAP 6/84
777 CAP 10/84
756 CAP 5/90
737 CAP 11/98
EWR 777 CAP 3/86
756 CAP 10/95
737 CAP 8/98
CLE 737 CAP 7/98
GUM 737 CAP 5/05
Thanks for posting this, and keep in mind that this isn't even a stovepiped version of reality - it is a bid pattern version. Same thing on the UAL side. Junior Cap was approx 1996 during that period, but if you stovepipe it, it doesn't come close to that. Bidding patterns do not come into play in mergers. What each pilot is entitled to absolutely does. The junior number in any BES means absolutely nothing.
On the perspective of a relative seniority solution - that is exactly what the NIC award was that caused the change to ALPA merger policy (i.e. relative seniority, staple the furloughed pilot).
The CAL merger committee went one step further (to the extreme side) and said not only do we want improve relative seniority for CAL pilots, we advocate using a 1:1 slotting system and using our staffing model (absurd), so there are a full 1000 "extra" UAL pilots that should have been furloughed, so we'll staple them to the bottom below every single CAL pilot as well. I don't think the CAL pilots fully understand how extreme that proposal really was. It is dramatically more extreme than the NIC award. The NIC award cost ALPA 6000+ dues paying members (approx 15 mil a year in dues) and caused the uproar that changed ALPA merger policy. Yet the CAL side proposed something even more extreme. It simply isn't going to happen.
Scott