Originally Posted by
Scott Stoops
Thanks for posting this, and keep in mind that this isn't even a stovepiped version of reality - it is a bid pattern version. Same thing on the UAL side. Junior Cap was approx 1996 during that period, but if you stovepipe it, it doesn't come close to that. Bidding patterns do not come into play in mergers. What each pilot is entitled to absolutely does. The junior number in any BES means absolutely nothing.
On the perspective of a relative seniority solution - that is exactly what the NIC award was that caused the change to ALPA merger policy (i.e. relative seniority, staple the furloughed pilot).
The CAL merger committee went one step further (to the extreme side) and said not only do we want improve relative seniority for CAL pilots, we advocate using a 1:1 slotting system and using our staffing model (absurd), so there are a full 1000 "extra" UAL pilots that should have been furloughed, so we'll staple them to the bottom below every single CAL pilot as well. I don't think the CAL pilots fully understand how extreme that proposal really was. It is dramatically more extreme than the NIC award. The NIC award cost ALPA 6000+ dues paying members (approx 15 mil a year in dues) and caused the uproar that changed ALPA merger policy. Yet the CAL side proposed something even more extreme. It simply isn't going to happen.
Scott
Good post Scott.
I've asked the question before, and have not gotten 1 LCAL pilot to answer it, so perhaps they are more aware of how far in the weeds their proposal is than we give credit for:
If this is the methodology that the LCAL Committee thinks is fair, should we then adopt it as ALPA Merger Policy? If so, can someone please explain how that would work if we merge with Alaska. In that case, the newest new hire at Alaska Airlines would instantly be a Widebody Captain, and the bottom 85% of our combined UCH list would be stapled below them. Sound like a good methodology?