Originally Posted by
XHooker
A career is more like a basketball game where the totality of the career (score at the end) is more important than who made the last shot (what you hold when you retire). Over an entire career for a new hire, more widebodies are better. However, more widebodies means longer to upgrade to captain once you reach WB FO. Once you hit NB captain, more widebodies are better again. The point isn't to get into specific numbers, just to point out the advantage of widebodies waxes and wanes depending on a variety of factors, chief among them being where you are on the list.
My real point/question is driven by the comments about LCAL pilots trying to "steal seniority" because from the viewpoint of much of our list, that's exactly what the LUAL proposal does. LUAL's proposed list moves many of us out of a status/category we held proir to the merger. I hold no ill will because of the proposal, the respective proposals are what they are and the board will make a decision. My bet is that at my seniority, the decision will be in the middle, meaning neither side held the high ground.
I can appreciate those thoughts. Overall, I think the goal is to have more Widebodies, but certainly there is a benefit to getting an earlier upgrade on a NB. I don't know how it is on the LCAL side, but the LUAL side seniority for WB F/O's is pretty equal to NB CAP. The money is better on the narrowbody, but the QOL is much better on the WB, so it seems to split folks down the middle.
By the "merger date", which one are you using to determine that LUAL pilots will push LCAL pilots out of their seats? I can see that being a concern for sure, but from our perspective there are 3 years of upgrades (some of them 2006 hires) who will not be flushed, and will continue to hold that seat even though they couldn't have dreamed of it in 2010. So certainly both sides have their frustrations and concerns.
Anyway, looking forward to putting this in the rearview