Originally Posted by
Vikz09
Bucking I understand what your saying but I can guarantee the 100 seat discussion would come. My questions are these.
1) once the flying is outsourced is it considered Alaska's mainline flying to negotiate away?
2) our own Dalpa has said that you always listen and negotiate. I would hope before the words ever got out of managements mouth they would stop them before the sentence is finished. I however have my doubts.
Alaska's scope is specific to their current 737's, nothing else. They have no right to anything else Alaska Air Group does.
In contrast Delta scope says that Delta pilots do all Delta Company flying, with some exceptions.
Alaska's scope is exclusive. It takes part of the Company's operations and says Alaska pilots must fly their current 737 fleet.
Delta's scope is inclusive. Delta pilots do all Company flying and we permit the Company to some flying without us.
ALPA's attorney is trying to tell our MEC that
Delta's permitted flying actually belongs to someone else. Our MEC does not necessarily buy that. Some members are asking for further inquiry, but to the best of my knowledge we have no formal agenda item going forward to dispute the opinion of ALPA's counsel.
In as much as there is already a discrepancy between the Delta PWA and advice coming from ALPA National which could undermine Delta pilots in a merger, I'd dare say that an Alaska merger is a very similar powder keg to what resulted in US Air leaving the union.
I do not know why Lee Moak is playing with this kind of fire. Maybe they (ALPA senior leadership) just has not thought out this redefinition of "Company Flying" out. Most Delta Status Reps know in their gut something is wrong, but they have a hard time really understanding the issue like pilots who have come from a background of being the non preferred members of ALPA. A merger where ALPA walks in and tries to put our contract on the same level of Alaska's would make my point in a very tangible way that perhaps would even turn our own MEC into a group of reborn trade unionists.
There is a distinction which is clearly written into our contract and which is very clearly lacking in the Alaska agreement.
Strategically, our Status Reps should bother to learn and understand what is at play here. Strategically we need to be strengthening the concept of "Company flying" that Delta pilots perform.