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Old 07-03-2013 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben Salley
Boxer:

What I'm absolutely not saying is anything that remotely resembles an sli arbitration. That ship has sailed. I'm simply pointing out that if one of those proposals is adopted, I take an $80k paycut and loose a lot of my bidding power and job security. If the other is adopted, life pretty much continues as is. Sorry, but I don't like one of those scenarios.

What I KNOW is that not you, I, or any other Pilot on this board authored one word in either proposal. And that the sooner we accept that and start working together, the sooner we can hold smisek accountable for how he is mishandling OUR collective futures. I assure you that the arbitrators are not combing APC for advice on how they handle this. As someone who has lived through the USAirways SLI, trust me, this thing will get FAR worse if we allow it to.

Please read tpa Exibit A; it's brutally honest about aircraft deliveries.

Frats,

-Ben
I respectfully disagree. You aren't losing anything, because there will be no flush of seats. There has been a windfall for LCAL pilots over the past 3 years due to the merger. UCH has desired to keep capacity flat, and has done that by adding planes to the LCAL side while parking planes on the LUAL side. So the windfall that LCAL pilots have enjoyed over the past 3 years of grow has allowed you to advance at a much faster rate than you would have on a go-it-alone basis, while those of us on the LUAL side have been sliding backwards. In addition, you will be able to keep that windfall after the SLI because you will not be flushed out of the seats even though you can't hold them on the combined list. So unless you bid out, you won't be losing the $80k you claim you will. The numbers you are using to compare what you "lost" in the LUAL proposal are based on your PRESENT SEAT, are they not? Again, sorry, but based on precedent, that is not a perspective that is accurate or valid. I apologize for the lack of empathy, but for the past 3 years I've been continuing to slide backwards so that UCH can keep its capacity flat while watching the LCAL side enjoy all the advancement. It's time to level the playing field.
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