Originally Posted by
forgot to bid
T, let me ask you this. you asked for my workable strategy but may I ask what you consider a good one to be?
From what you said here:
I guess TVM? But how far do you go with a TVM strategy?
I bet we could get a 10% YOY raise for 5 years if we're willing to give up some things elsewhere. For some, they make a fortune becasue of TVM, others... eh.
What if time is on your side, why give that up since we rarely have any leverage at all? What's wrong with saying screw TVM and going for doing the contract right no matter how long it takes? For some of us we've got 30 years left at this place, maybe we'd like to do things right and not just focus on the TVM. But that's me.
And btw after having a AMR 777A in the JS the other day I'm going to say the "well look at the APA" meme is about as substantive as the other popular meme "but that's what senior pilots want!" Both are straw men arguments to me.
fair questions to a point. First things first. The 777 captain probably has a pretty hefty B fund.. in his own name. Talk to a junior guy and ask him those questions. Are they happy? I really doubt their pleasure with the holdout is the same as a guy that is headed out the door pretty soon...
Tell me how much time is on our side and how much will be wasted utilizing that "leverage". Some of us don't have 30 years left. Maybe it is OK for you to wait 5, 6, 7 years to "get it right". Some don't have that long and that is unacceptable. Their quandary is every bit as important as yours too, and it is wrong for you to believe (demand) otherwise.
Good discussion, but there are fireworks in a few hours, so off I go..
Down with the British.