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Old 07-05-2013 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CALFO
I prefer to think of it as cal pilots enjoying the long term business/fleet plan of our airline.
Except its already been disclosed that CAL was shrinking and furloughing. Guys on this board even admitting they were bumped out of Captain seats into FO seats. The 2010 Seniority list that the CAL side submitted showed that as well, with 1998 hires being the most junior Captains.

That type of activity is not indicative of a growing airline. The only thing that changed was the merger, which "magically" CAL flying radically improved following that. You can say it all you want, but the data all shows otherwise. Yes, if you just go 1 for 1 down the list, any smaller airline is going to do better in any SLI. You wouldn't have proposed that if you'd merged with Alaska I bet....

I find it disingenuous that most CAL pilots want to talk about where they sat in 2008 or 2013, but radically avoid where they sat in 2010 which is when the merger happened and we went under one management. Too bad, because it looks like that's going to be the baseline for all of this.

So you have 1998 hires on the CAL side as Captains, and 1997 hires on the UAL side, so that probably means those guys will end up with about the same seniority, which is about where the UAL proposed list shows it. Far from the CAL list where 1997 hires are stapled to the bottom of the list, which no one on the CAL side finds unreasonable at all.

So that's my prediction..... FWIW
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