Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Then you've never read anything on the website. They attack ALPA for sure...and for very accurate reasons. But there are many new ways of doing business listed. What you've said is just not true.



This is the kind of stuff that makes me believe you never signed a card or ever went to the website. I don't recall anything from you other than 100% full throated ALPA support. That is of course your right, I just don't remember even the smallest thought of an independent union from you.



This is where you are so wrong finis and your position at the top of the heap is skewing your thinking. First, it's wrong to exclude UPS and FDX. Second, the fact that our pay for the 747 and 777 is approaching that of SWA crews is nothing to crow about. Every pilot makes that at SWA. Only a small percentage of Delta pilots make what you and I make. Further, a significant portion of our seniority list will NEVER make what we make because they'll never get there. You really need to rethink your statement above.



We know with 100% certainty finis. There wasn't even a hint of buying the Virgin stake or the remnants of Pinnacle. Only the corporate goal of debt reduction. The only reason they were able to make these purchases was because of the money we left on the table. If we had taken that money, they wouldn't have been able to make these outsource facilitating purchases and still meet the debt reduction milestones they promised Wall Street.



See above. By leaving extra money on the table, we allowed management to keep their debt reduction promises and make these new outsourcing purchases.

Again, we (DALPA) actually aided management in purchasing more opportunities for management to outsource our jobs. Why would we do that? Because ALPA's mandate is to gain members by spreading the wealth from the have's (Delta pilots) to the have not's (DCI & select JV partners). Welcome to ALPA's brave new world.

Carl