Originally Posted by
Slats
Originally Posted by
Nevets
PS. Your welcome, again, for known crew member.
Awesome, thanks!!! Where do I pay my ALPA dues for such a great program?
P.S. you're welcome again, for not having to file ch7...
You can pay when your group votes to exercise their constitutional right to organize. By the way, we wouldn't have gone out of business. If you believe that CAL would've have let that happen, then I don't know what to tell you. I'll take your silence on everything else as tacit agreement.
Originally Posted by
303flyboy
Nevets,
Thank you for KCM. You are welcome for still having a job. Ever wonder what would have happened if SkyWest wouldn't have bought you ?
1500 posts here, 1500 on FI... You truly are the General Lee of the regional forums. Congratulations.
See my post above. It was all a sham to begin with.
Anyway, go ahead and make personal attacks agains me if that's all you have. It just shows when someone points out facts you don't like, people resort to ad hominim arguments.
Originally Posted by
DisbandtheRLA
Nevets,
ALPA was not the sole author of KCM. They sponsored its implementation with A4A. It was a program expanded from its CrewPASS predecessor. Even if ALPA didn't sponsor the program, it would most likely still be here today.
Do you ever travel on United? Do you enjoy not having to pay those crazy segment fees united tried to push on to every express carrier? It wasn't ALPA that got United to back off that plan, it was Skywest.
I have NEVER said that kcm was solely from ALPA. ALPA was overwhelmingly the biggest contributor to it but CAPA and even the AFA collaborated. It goes all the way back to crew pass in which ALPA donated the equipment for it. Crew pass wouldn't even had existed if it wasn't for ALPA. Anyway, my point is that our dues helped pay for that. What did YOU do to help out?
PS. Don't even get us started on the wonderful pass benefits Skywest has negotiated for us. It's ten times worse than what we used to have.
Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Originally Posted by
DisbandtheRLA
Nevets,
ALPA was not the sole author of KCM. They sponsored its implementation with A4A. It was a program expanded from its CrewPASS predecessor. Even if ALPA didn't sponsor the program, it would most likely still be here today.
Do you ever travel on United? Do you enjoy not having to pay those crazy segment fees united tried to push on to every express carrier? It wasn't ALPA that got United to back off that plan, it was Skywest.
This is technically correct. ALPA was the 800 pound gorilla that forced TSA to finally roll it out (then took credit for it), but the airlines (management) pay for it. To the tune of $25/crewmember/month. So really, you don't need to thank ALPO for it, though they do like to take credit for everything good in the industry, and blame management for everything bad.
ALPA did all the legwork for it. They lobbied for it. They came up with the concept of crew pass using cass and provided the funding for the equipment to run that test program for years. This was before anyone was interested in lifting a finger for us for this. A4A later came on board but that was only after tons of persuasion from ALPA because the TSA didn't want to pay for it. None of this would have ever happened if ALPA wouldn't have taken the initiative and pushed for it for years.
Regardless, it's ONE example of dozens of safety and security initiatives ALPA and other unions have helped bring to fruition that we all take for granted every time we or any family or friend travels on an aircraft. But at least I help continue these initiatives rather than coat tail on them and have an attitude of, who cares I got mine.