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Old 07-07-2013 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Exactly. Clicking it all off just to polish skills isn't always the best idea. 4 mile wide airways and +/- a few hundred feet all day are long, long gone. We're in the age of "hey no problem with us" from ATC and here comes an auto generated deviation for almost nothing. And nextgen isn't even here yet. There are times to click stuff off. Sometimes all of it, either for operational necessity or good old fashioned practice. But creating and then doubling the tunnel vision you just created while simultaneously increasing workload doesn't mesh well with the plus/minus nothing operating environment that's closing in around us. When it comes to the magic, sometimes more is less. The accident that kicked this discussion off in the first place could end up being a case of clicking everything off. A more assertive PM that said a lot more a lot sooner will save the day a million times more than a culture of hand flying just to hand fly.

I just hope we don't get barraged with memos and edicts from on high because of this, either way.
gunships example was exactly when not to click it off- that was not my point.

There are times to do so, and times to not- I was not saying handfly the plane down from 10k every time. It's rare for me to do so except on a slam dunk redeye on the downwind in ATL where it's just easier to turn it all off.