Originally Posted by
NVUS
Originally Posted by
Nevets
Another one who skirts around the question at hand. Figures you guys would do this kind of stuff. Anyway, it wasn't any pilot that makes those types of decisions. And it wasn't because of any of those pilots that the decision was made. It was made solely because they thought it was best for the shareholders, not because some work group allowed them. It would have been made regardless if they felt it was best. I hope that clears it up.
Thank you for CASS and ASAP. You're welcome for the continued employment. We will continue to make the money, and you can continue to be a righteous douchebag. Deal?
Well, it's not just cass and ASAP. It's a LONG list that you guys coat tail on. That's just merely two examples. But I appreciate your thanks. You are the first person to say that. Incredible!
Originally Posted by
NVUS
Originally Posted by
450knotOffice
The arrogance: This is what I'm talking about. YOU and every other pilot have NOTHING to do with ANYBODY's employment. Why do you keep saying that? Get off of your high horse, man. If anybody should be thanked for the continued employment of the ASA and Xjet employees, it's the senior level managers at your company. NOT any of you folks. Pretty simple concept. YOU have nothing to do with the continued employment of any given employee.
I think he might be a "douchebag" because he's tired of being told that he should thank YOU guys for his job. If somebody were to tell you that over and over, you WOULD react the same way. Do not kid yourself.
The profits created by the entire SkyWest Airlines employee group is the sole reason the company was able to make purchases such as ASA and ExpressJet. It is also the current profits generated by the SkyWest Airlines employee group that is continuing to pay the bills around here.
He needs to worry less about SAPA and more about his own MEC. He is just an internet troll that continues to perpetuate the negative image the entire SkyWest pilot groups has about the ExpressJet pilot group.
The perceived negative image those on this board may have is not my concern.
I'm not worried about SAPA but you are right about being worried about the XJT MEC. My point is that things would be different if you weren't coat tail riders.
Lastly, you guys can be working for free and making Skywest twice as much profits, but it still doesn't mean that you or any of the 3000 pilots decide what is best for the shareholders. Only the board does and management runs the place profitably and write your operating manual for you to follow. Our management also wrote an operating manual for us to operate. We as pilots just do what they wrote in there. Three thousand different pilots would be operating the same as you 3000. You don't make a difference on what management thinks is best for the shareholders. Otherwise you would have a seat as a board member.
Is that clear enough now?
Originally Posted by
JustAMushroom
Originally Posted by
Nevets
Another one who skirts around the question at hand. Figures you guys would do this kind of stuff. Anyway, it wasn't any pilot that makes those types of decisions. And it wasn't because of any of those pilots that the decision was made. It was made solely because they thought it was best for the shareholders, not because some work group allowed them. It would have been made regardless if they felt it was best. I hope that clears it up.
Nobody is skirting around any issues. I've addressed your point before. You're loosing money. You've got to change. End of story. All your bloviating isn't going to change this. We may disagree on the tactics of getting you out of the hole but everyone has to face the facts...you're in a hole!!!Nobody cares if you don't like SAPA or JA. Nobody even cares if you're grateful. But there are mechanics, FA's and gate agents who have mouths to feed and if you're too slow to figure it out, Ill help.. we're all in this together. Get your act together and start carrying your own weight.
And yet you still don't answer my question. So who is bloviating?
And we are talking about your anchor weight. Do you think it's harder for us and cost negotiating capital in order to improve 401 matching, health benefits, and scope when we are negotiating that for 3000 additional pilots who don't even contribute to the negotiations? Do you honestly believe managing is more likely to cave on any of those sections when they know it will apply to 7500 pilots rather than 4500?