Originally Posted by
newarkblows
and they are playing skywest pilots against us... who could have seen that one coming.
That's what I've been saying for a long time. It's been happening since day one of negotiations.
Originally Posted by
Vertisch
I am not understanding how were up against Skywest. Isn't their agreement with their pilot group that they just get ASA contract plus 1%?
No, generally they get some industry average rate (or some concocted middle of the pack rate) minus 2%. But the "agreement" they have is that they get whatever 401k matching, health benefits, and scope that we get. Surprise surprise, all three of those sections and rates are still open.
Originally Posted by
freezingflyboy
Originally Posted by
Saabs
That is a horrible analogy - one is a contract carrier who had a set negotiated income. Colgan was losing money before they got the new pilot contract that didn't last long. If anything ur analogy made it seem like our increase in compensation mad colgan go under.
Fine. Compare Southwest to anyone you want. Point is, you can pay your employees commensurate with their qualifications and experience AND make money. A fair, livable wage and profitability are not mutually exclusive. As soon as we can ALL tell management to look in the mirror next time they want to cut costs, the better off we will be. I, for one, am tired of watching this company fart away stupid amounts of money through mindless inefficiency and then they tell me I am the reason we aren't cost competitive. Just makes my blood boil.
Not to mention that having two sets of management teams, one in ATL and one in SGU probably costs the company more than what they seek in concessions.