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Old 07-27-2013 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
B.S. right back at ya. Here we go again.... blame EVERYONE and everything else. However, the 'YES' votes speak for themselves, and you can try spinning them whichever way you want.

Some things should be sacred. Airline pension gutted? Your flying outsourced against you? Suspension of Service or the so-called "ALPA nuke" as George E. Hopkins terms it. Again, some things are or should be sacred and/or contested and challenged at every step. I was an ALPA pilot when all this was going down and was absolutely disgusted with how every pilot group folded like a house of cards. I also saw the insane amount of greed by the older, senior pilots, well before the Age 65 rule.

I was laughing my head off at the whole "Taking it back" bull. While our pensions and scope were being gutted along with some paycuts going to 50%.... ALPA was valiantly fighting for TWIC. Seriously?!?

As I said, nothing is sacred to ALPA or US airline pilots. ALPA's 'red line' is a flexible, and easily adjustable target... just threaten them with something. It's embarrassing.

So before you start defending yourself again with how your hands are tied due to RLA, remember... some things in life should be sacred and worth fighting for even if you **** people off. RLA hasn't even been truly challenged in recent history. I'd say gutting the pensions, giving away your flying to 90-seat RJ operator, not to mention cutting some groups' pay by as much as 50% would qualify for a major dispute under RLA, and if not... make a stand and challenge the almost 100-year law! Nope.... house of cards, instead. That's the no-balls part.

Try again.
Exactly. Nobody at ALPA National is willing to call a nation wide SOS, give up their $500,000 salary, paid retirement plan, medical plan and risk going to jail, over something as trivial as -your- pay rates and retirement plans. It would be nice if ALPA National Pres. lost his retirement and took a 42% pay cut but...nah, let's not go there!

I've been watching this slow motion train wreck ever since Bush 1 helped Frank Lorenzo take CAL, then Eastern apart. Franky smooth talk showed all the other Airline CEO's that if you can buy enough politicians, you can do what ever the fk you want, and get away with it. That was the time for a National SOS, before there were very many large foreign carriers who could replace us.

Right now, the sword hanging over ALPA's head is Cabotage. There will be no SOS, or any other large scale job actions, because if there were, in about a NY Second, our Politicians will give away the rest of our flying to the highest foreign bidder.

That's why National's only strategy now is; Constructive Appeasement.

Don't rock the boat, or else!

Last edited by Timbo; 07-27-2013 at 05:50 AM.
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