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Old 07-31-2013 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
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This is an unsettling trend. I'm a regional pilot trying to get to the majors. I have literally been stuck at my carrier as an FO for 6 years without any forward movement whatsoever. I know you guys spend a lot of time working on shrinking the DCI lift and shifting it to mainline flying. In theory that creates mainline jobs and I like the direction you're going. However, I don't see quite the urgency to go after these JVs and codeshare agreements with huge international carriers.

... Do you see any collaborative movement within DALPA to get this under control? With that said, I know the pilots don't run the company and can't tell the company how to run the business. But just as DALPA has been successful, relatively, in bring back domestic flying to mainline, they can also focus on slowing down these agreements.
You must be new to this thread. To answer your question, "yes." Our pilot group is on the leading edge of JV scope management. Basically, our contract requires management to use Delta pilots to fly our share of any new production which might be created via Joint Venture.

I think such broad based language is terrific because we draw a circle around everything (other than permitted exceptions) and state, "that's ours."

If you are interested there is an ALPA Council 44 meeting at the Holiday Inn, Virginia Ave., at 11am tomorrow where the guest speaker is among the foremost experts on JV's anywhere. LEC meetings are usually open to guests. You're welcome to pull up a chair, munch on a cookie and learn something.

If you are "Alaska Bound," have you read their scope language with regard to "Alaska Air Group." They failed to bind their holding company to anything other than their current and ordered 737 fleet. In other words, they drew their circle really small, just around a fleet specific operation. Our Circle is any flying by Delta, or for Delta.

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