Originally Posted by
SEDPA
It really doesn't matter any more ... Like Ben and many others have said, since we now have a UPA, soon will have the award, and shortly have one MEC, unity is much more important than finding an axe to grind .... But ok, if you insist on seeing certain histories as facts to support your view of the world, ok with me. I'll go back to the basics ... If it was your flying, you would be doing it; if your contract protected or gave you that flying, you would be flying it; if your pilots had jobs, they would be flying; if your side had aircraft ordered and delivered; your pilots would be flying them ... It really is that simple ... any other delusional rationalization is just self-fulfilling conspiracy that will never end, and hurt all in the the long run.
I dearly hope the arbs deliver an award that is more unifying than it is polarizing ... But some will never be happy if they continue to live in a past only framed with their perspective ... reality will bite very soon.
100% no.
You don't know me from Adam, but if you look at my brief history online you will find that a) I have changed my mind publicly b) apologized for false information and c) have always used facts with data that I post or link to support my reasoning.
I seek the truth and I pride myself on living a life wherein I work to "put myself in the other guy's shoes".
The SLI will be stovepiped Cat/Stat sorted somehow.
The CAL-MEC delayed the SLI because it benefited them.
The delay hurt UAL pilots.
If the CAL-MEC had simply followed logic we could be ahead of where we are today.
I understand CAL had lots of planes on order.
I understand UAL had been on a declining trend.
I understand we all want what's best for us as individuals.
I don't understand the incredible sense of entitlement CAL pilots show on APC. Not one humble voice supporting logic . . . not one.
If the arbs choose a stovepiped Cat/Stat I hope to God that the CAL posters on APC will come to their senses. We started with 694 planes and now we have 692 planes and CAL got lots of new planes and UAL got zero and that was because:
A) CAL was such a great company it could compete in NY against a combined DAL/NWA.
B) The merger of CAL and UAL made for a viable competitor to the new behemoth that was DAL/NWA.
I have no axe to grind. What I dream of is the day when you or any CAL pilot comes back and says: Cat/Stat was the most logical approach and UAL was a great partner.
I can start by saying I dreamed of the day the merger with CAL would be announced. I believe our combined fleet and route structure has the potential to kick butt, but so far all the CAL pilots I have met on APC want to take away my career expectations because they believe first that their company was going to grow without a merger because they had lots of planes on order and second that UAL was about to collapse if the merger had not occured. I do not believe either and I wait for a single CAL pilot to agree.